Statement: “The analysis that we have seen, the studies and research that we’ve seen, is that 80 percent of small businesses already pay better than the minimum wage,” City Council President Todd Gloria said at a June 16 press conference.
Determination: Mostly True
Analysis: City Council President Todd Gloria and others pushing a minimum wage hike say they want to ensure fair wages for workers – not endanger small businesses.
At a June 16 press conference, Gloria emphasized that few small businesses will be forced to boost worker paychecks if the $11.50 minimum wage proposal passes. After all, he said, research shows 80 percent of them already pay their workers more than the minimum wage.
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As a contractor I pay more than minimum wage which is common in my industry.
We do so because we require a level of job site skill (safety) and the training required of those who work for us.
One exception is the kid who has never been on the job and requires training/babysitting. More than likely pay them cash at first to get around the increase.
So if I was included in the survey I would be skewing the data.
The survey should be focused on those small businesses that pay minimum wage not those of us that will not be directly affected.
Todd you are either clueless or blowing smoke here.
I am usually in complete agreement with Fact Check analysis, and I'm not sufficiently informed to express a firm opinion about the issue, the think-tank study or the Council President. However, I do note that Councilman Gloria specifically hedged his statement with phrases "the analysis we have seen" and "the studies and research we have seen." Therefore Mr. Gloria's statement should, strictly speaking, be rated True. The Mostly True rating leaves an impression that Mr. Gloria may be trying to distort information, however slightly. Maybe he is, but his statement, in the context that I read it, leaves no indication at all of that. Your analysis in the incomplete nature of study into this issue is, however, as thorough and useful as what I regularly expect from VOD.
Mr. Davis: You make a very interesting point which necessitates correction of the fact check finding to true. Mr. Gloria states, "The analysis that we have seen, the studies and research that we’ve seen, is that 80 percent of small businesses already pay better than the minimum wage.” He apparently then pointed to a study that indeed indicates that, as being "the analysis we have seen." (Whether the study is accurate is another matter.) In that context, Mr. Gloria's statement is 100% true (unless fact check knows that they have seen others that have contrasting information, which seems unlikely since fact check is unaware of other studies of this nature).
Fact check here is evaluating the validity and perhaps applicability of the underlying study, which is indeed useful, but somewhat immaterial to the statement being fact checked.
I would also note, in this context, that the sub-headline on this piece on the VOSD website is incorrect. It states, "City Council President Todd Gloria claimed more than 80 percent of small businesses pay their workers above minimum wage." Not exactly. He noted that was the conclusion of a study he had reviewed.
@Chris Brewster Hey! Score one for an SDSU education! I'll allow as how I hadn't noticed the sub-headline. Thanks for the prompt reply, especially on a weekend.
If Gloria put his head in the oven and his foot in the freezer then on average the fact check would be true.
If you open the survey you find that the minim. wage determination is on a single question ("Do you pay any of your employees the minimum wage." So if you pay a dime above, you answer no. Would have been FAR better to give a range ("Do you pay any of your employeess less than X") But that wouldn't have given them the answer they wanted.