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    On May 18, 2014, MaryAnne Pintar, the campaign manager for Rep. Scott Peters, sent the U-T a note.

    She was frustrated that a paid staffer for Carl DeMaio, Todd Bosnich, had been allowed to run a letter to the editor in support of DeMaio on May 14. The letter looked like any letter to the editor, with no mention of Bosnich’s affiliation.

    The U-T, she wrote, should put up a note that it was a mistake to publish the letter.

    Adrian Vore, who edits the Local section and is the reader’s representative at the paper, responded to her a few days later saying that would not be happening.


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    “It turns out that Bosnich stopped working for the DeMaio camp in early May. The letter was submitted and ran about 2 weeks after he left,” he wrote. “Given, that I won’t run an editor’s note (sic).”

    That was the story DeMaio’s team gave Vore. But Bosnich hadn’t left the campaign. DeMaio, in fact, was angry with him.

    In a May 14 email, DeMaio sent a note to three members of his team: Bosnich, spokesman Dave McCulloch and campaign manager Tommy Knepper.

    “Good that we got letters in — but bad that Todd submitted one in his own name,” DeMaio wrote them. “Todd, we absolutely do NOT allow that. it (sic) has to be third party individuals not tied to the campaign.”

    That sounds like a reprimand to a subordinate. But Bosnich was supposedly no longer a subordinate. DeMaio says Bosnich was fired May 12.

    DeMaio’s spokesman, Dave McCulloch told me in a statement: “On May 12 the campaign manager told Bosnich that he no longer was an official part of the campaign and would no longer be given paid work.”

    Vore told me that he called DeMaio’s campaign May 20 — he can’t remember with whom he spoke — and was told that Bosnich was not a part of the campaign and had been let go two weeks before he wrote the letter.

    “There was a weirdness to it. There was something there, something that made me feel uneasy. But then again, I believed them,” Vore said.

    Why did DeMaio reprimand Bosnich, who he says was already fired two days before he wrote the letter? If he was no longer part of the staff, why couldn’t he send a letter in? Why had DeMaio’s representative told the U-T Bosnich had left its service weeks before even they say he actually left?

    When, exactly, Bosnich left DeMaio’s team has become one of the central mysteries to emerge as we try to understand who lied in the scandal that consumed the 52nd District congressional race.

    The confusion cuts both ways. The biggest problem with Bosnich’s story is his own timeline.

    He says he confronted DeMaio on May 18 about sexual harassment.

    The next day, May 19, Bosnich says, he showed up to work and the campaign manager, Knepper, told him he was fired. He says Knepper asked him to sign a non-disclosure agreement. If he did, he could collect $50,000.

    Thus, this date — May 19 — is non-negotiable. If Bosnich is wrong about the date, then his entire story is questionable.

    And there are a lot of problems with this date.

    DeMaio’s New Mission

    DeMaio says he’s done with politics but he’s desperate to clear his name. He’s living a nightmare, he told me.

    To back up his version of events, he has released several exchanges his campaign team members had with Bosnich via social media and email that call Bosnich’s timeline into question.

    Why did he not release these sooner, when they might have helped him during the campaign? McCulloch told an audience last week that it would have only made the scandal worse.

    The social media and text messages DeMaio released do cast doubt on Bosnich’s timeline. They show him taking responsibility for a plagiarism scandal that embarrassed the campaign. They show him being apologetic.

    Most importantly, they make his timeline questionable.

    Bosnich has refused to explain them to me. Even Bosnich’s own Twitter postings cast doubt on his timeline.

    It’s not just emails and social media conversations, however. The police, in their affidavit seeking a search warrant, told a judge Bosnich gave them an entirely different date of when he was fired.

    If Bosnich really was sexually harassed by someone he looked up to and then fired unceremoniously and with an offer to buy him off, I can’t imagine how upset and befuddled it would leave him. I think you have to allow for that.

    But a review of all the things we now know about his story does bring up some questions he does not answer.

    The Intern with Access

    DeMaio says now that Bosnich was not actually an employee of the campaign. He worked from November to March without pay. McCulloch said in a statement that Bosnich was an unpaid intern.

    He said that Bosnich asked for pay in March and the campaign decided to pay him to pursue a report that would end up being called Pension Double Dippers.

    That was the report that, once published, National Journal said was plagiarized from their own investigative journalism. It was a major embarrassment to the DeMaio campaign.

    A review of campaign financial disclosures corroborates this. Bosnich was paid $1,000 on March 27 and $500 every two weeks after that until May 14.

    DeMaio now admits that he wrote “two to three pages” of the report. But the crucial data on members of Congress who were collecting both a salary and a pension was lifted from National Journal without citation.

    I haven’t seen anything that makes me question this. It appears Bosnich did lift the data and, at the very least, failed to warn his colleagues adequately that National Journal deserved citation.

    This failure is why DeMaio says his campaign manager fired Bosnich on May 12.

    But strangely, for someone who was fired in disgrace, Bosnich was not shut off from the campaign. DeMaio claims Knepper felt bad for Bosnich and allowed him to stay on as a volunteer. Crucially, DeMaio’s spokesman told me Bosnich kept his access to email and their system for at least 10 more days.

    ‘Keep Your Chin Up’

    DeMaio’s partner, Johnathan Hale, said he would stop by the campaign every day. He would bring the workers sweets. He said DeMaio didn’t update him on everything that happened in the campaign.

    And that’s why he said that, on May 20, when he went into the campaign, he did not know that Bosnich had been fired. According to the campaign, this had happened more than a week before. According to Bosnich, it had happened the day before.

    Hale said that a campaign worker, Chase Kassel, told him Bosnich had been let go.

    So Hale sent him a message via Facebook.

    halebosnich

    “Keep your chin up. Campaigns are brutal. Carl and I appreciate your (sic) so very much!” it shows Hale telling Bosnich.

    “Thanks. I really appreciate that. I just feel bad because I let you all down and I’ll (sic) I want to do is whatever I can to help the campaign,” Bosnich wrote back.

    Benjamin Katz, a local IT expert and entrepreneur, independently reviewed Hale’s computer and concluded the exchange was authentic.

    You can see why DeMaio would think this is a kill shot. If Bosnich had just confronted DeMaio May 18 and been fired May 19 so unjustly, why would he be so contrite and supportive on May 20? Why would he say he still wants to help the campaign?

    Good questions.

    But there are other questions too: Remember, according to DeMaio, Bosnich was fired May 12. He was told that day, according to the DeMaio team, that he was no longer part of the campaign and would not be getting any more paid work.

    So a “keep your chin up” message would seem most appropriate that day. Why would Hale tell Bosnich to keep his chin up eight days later?

    Hale told me he didn’t learn of the firing until then. This is hard for me, because the plagiarism scandal was very high profile and the DeMaio team had told the media that someone was fired for it.

    I talked to Kassel, who confirmed DeMaio and Hale’s version of events. He said Bosnich had only come in a couple of times after he was fired May 12. But he could not remember how many or when the last visit was.

    “We did not ostracize him when it happened,” Kassel said.

    The Confrontation with DeMaio

    There are many other problems with Bosnich’s timeline.

    Let’s start with the confrontation he said he had with DeMaio.

    In the interview he gave Mike Slater from KFMB June 2 — a discussion that did not air — Bosnich detailed how, he said, DeMaio had been aggressive to him sexually and exposed himself. Then he said this:

    Bosnich: On May 18th, I told Carl, I had a meeting with him, and I told him that this behavior needs to stop.

    Slater: You met with Carl?

    Bosnich: Yes I met with Carl and then told him this behavior needs to stop that he’s going to be found out one way or another. He’s going to not only embarrass himself, his family, everyone on his staff and bring disrepute to the Republican Party. That, um, he just either needs to quit the race or stop his behavior immediately. And he acknowledged what I said. He said, “That’s fine.”

    That night, May 18, Bosnich and I had a Twitter exchange. I had just received a mailer from the Kirk Jorgensen campaign. It was an ugly attack on DeMaio’s manliness.

    Bosnich baited me to go further to defend DeMaio and denounce Jorgensen.

    When I looked back at this, I was stunned at the timing. The exchange would have happened right after Bosnich allegedly had this amazing conversation with DeMaio.

    A day later, he defended DeMaio again on Twitter.

    I asked Bosnich about it.

    “That was an incredibly tumultuous, upsetting and difficult part of my life and I can’t remember some of the tweets or other stuff I did during that time,” he wrote me in an email. “However, I would still stand by that tweet you sent me since I think some of the homophobic groups and attacks that Jorgensen linked himself to were disgusting and reprehensible.”

    Bosnich’s Police Problem

    The tweets aren’t the only problems with Bosnich’s timeline.

    There’s also the police.

    Bosnich said he was fired May 19 after this confrontation with DeMaio.

    In affidavits unsealed after pressure from NBC 7 San Diego and U-T San Diego, police say Bosnich told them he confronted the campaign manager, Knepper, during the week of May 19 and that he was pulled into Knepper’s office and fired May 26.

    That’s a major discrepancy. I asked Bosnich what can explain the difference.

    He would say only that he did tell police he was fired May 19, not May 26. He said police recorded their conversation with him.

    The police department refused to release this recording to me. “The recordings of conversations with Todd Bosnich are part of an investigation. They are exempt from disclosure according to Government Code (GC) section 6254(f),” wrote Jericho Salvador, an officer and the chief’s liaison for public records.

    It’s a major piece of evidence in this mystery and it’s out of our reach solely on the discretion of the police chief, whose officers have communicated that the investigation is over.

    But back to Bosnich’s interview with KFMB.

    Bosnich went on to describe what he says happened.

    Bosnich: And the very next day, May 19 I met with Tommy Knepper, he called me in his office for a meeting, and he told me that Carl had lost his trust in me. And that I could no longer be part of the campaign. They offered me a job in the San Diego County Republican Party and also offered me $50,000, to sign a non-disclosure agreement which I rejected.

    There is precedent for the Republican Party job offer. Logan Casteel, a driver for DeMaio during his 2012 mayoral campaign, complained so angrily about how DeMaio treated him — he told me he was treated “like a doormat” — that the campaign arranged for a job for him with the Republican Party.

    An Email Comes from Bosnich’s Account Well After He’s Fired

    On May 23, Bosnich emailed his mother from his official campaign email account. In the message, he told her to leave him alone.

    “I don’t want to talk to you until you apologize and the last week and a half has been the worst of my life. I was responsible for a huge fuck up and had to be fired as Policy Director,” he wrote. And then he pasted a link to the plagiarism story.

    But it was actually Bosnich who gave this email to police, saying he did not send it. He said he received it as part of a threat that his words would be used against him if he continued to talk.

    That he did not send the email is completely plausible, considering the culture of shared email identities in DeMaio’s campaign. Bosnich said he was fired May 19 and cut off from the system at that point.

    DeMaio claims Bosnich had access to the email system for more than 10 days after he was fired. He was allowed to keep posing as a campaign staffer and that’s when he sent the email, DeMaio says.

    It wasn’t the only email that came to Bosnich. He says he received other threatening messages advising him to take the $50,000 and save his career.

    Frankly, he said, he was considering taking the money and just leaving. That might explain some of the messages he sent.

    It is also why he says he met with Pintar, Peters’ campaign manager.

    “I reached out to Pintar because I was thinking about taking the money, but even if I did, I still wanted to pass along information that would be helpful to the Peters campaign since I still didn’t want to see someone who was so clearly unfit for office win,” he wrote to me in an email.

    It is one explanation of the many problems with Bosnich’s story. He says a damning email is fabricated, a police affidavit is not accurate and most importantly that he was confused and upset after what he says happened to him.

    The problems with his story are exactly why another accuser’s story is so powerful and important in the scandal. A second accuser was devastating, and would confirm a pattern. If Bosnich is DeMaio’s worst nightmare, then a man named Justin Harper is a close second.

    I’ll work on what we know about Harper next.

    Click here to read our earlier stories on Peters’ role in the DeMaio scandal, and the DeMaio campaign’s deceptive emails.

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      Written by Scott Lewis

      I'm Scott Lewis, the editor in chief of Voice of San Diego. Please contact me if you'd like at scott.lewis@voiceofsandiego.org or 619.325.0527 and follow me on Twitter (it's a blast!): @vosdscott.

      36 comments
      David Cohen
      David Cohen subscriber

      I think it is a mistake to try to analyze/interpret the multiple and conflicting allegations upon which this election drama is based without passing it through the filter of what else we already knew about Peters and DeMaio.

      Jim Abbott
      Jim Abbott subscribermember

      Other than the continued wry smile this story keeps bringing me, I still see little more than an a candidate whose boorish behavior and shocking inability to lead people finally ruined his credibility with the public. Besides, if the ongoing investigation results depend in any way on email proof AND we know that "shared identities" within the DeMaio campaign were used extensively - whose to say who was actually at the keyboard for anything? Carl DeMaio clearing his good name? Uh, ok.

      Glenn Younger
      Glenn Younger subscribermember

      The tactics, strategy and results of every election help set up the next election.  The art of how to defeat or elect a candidate is always being refined.  How Peters won and DeMaio lost contain lessons that we'll see play out in 2016 and beyond. 

      I'd like to see which things will be re-used in the next election, and by whom.

      Much  respect Scott for your desire to know the truth.  Thanks Scott and VOSD for taking on this sisyphean task.  

      Bill Bradshaw
      Bill Bradshaw subscribermember

      Although we’re now in the “Who cares, the election’s over phase”, it would be enlightening to direct some attention to the timeline of Scott Peters’ campaign getting DeMaio’s “playbook” and turning it over to the police, plus Peters’ claim that he never looked at it and turned it over immediately.  Remember, the guy has to run again in two years, and if he’s a convenient liar the public has a right to know, right?

      As for Carl’s claim that he’s through with politics, I remember Richard Nixon telling the press they wouldn’t have him to kick around any more after he lost the California Governor’s race. Then he wound up as President a few years later.  “Never” is not always “never” to a politician who has ever actually won an election.

      msginsd
      msginsd subscriber

      All I get from this is a big WHO CARES? The race is over.  Unfortunately, beating a dead horse is something VoSD does well.

      Scott Lewis
      Scott Lewis moderator administratormember

      @msginsd I think it's important to find out who lied and who the victim in this situation was. I find the story compelling.

      Sam Ward
      Sam Ward subscribermember

      @msginsd There are a lot of reasons that this story remains relevant though the election is over.  As a threshold matter, Mr. DeMaio and his proxies continue to argue his innocence - he has a right to be heard, as does Mr. Bosnich .  All of the central characters in this story, Mr. Bosnich, Mr. DeMaio, Mr. McCulloch and Mr. Knepper are likely going to want to work again in this town.  If they are liars, people should know.  


      Finally, each of the central figures in this story seems to be acting to keep it alive through a dizzying series of sometimes bizarre accusations.  VOSD's efforts to parse these byzantine facts is both admirable and relevant.

      msginsd
      msginsd subscriber

      @Scott Lewis @msginsd And I don't.  It's politics.  Both sides lie.  Both sides "spin".  Big deal.  You're dragging VoSD down to the level of daytime soap operas.  Good luck with that business plan.  VoSD investors and contributors: ask about Scott's motives.  As somebody who has money to invest, I just don't see it.

      msginsd
      msginsd subscriber

      @Sam Ward @msginsd  "As a threshold matter"


      With all due respect, that single phrase tells me the rest of your comment is meaningless. Absolute nonsense. 

      Randy Dotinga
      Randy Dotinga memberauthor

      @msginsd @Scott Lewis You're looking for a conspiracy when there isn't one. Many readers clearly find this ongoing to be interesting because they're reading the installments in high numbers . It's also important because reputations of two influential people are on the line. And it's so far unresolved. If you think this coverage is bogus, then you have a problem not just with VOSD but journalism as a whole and the ethics of journalists themselves.  

      msginsd
      msginsd subscriber

      @Scott Lewis @msginsd No, you're guilty of trying to make "news" where none exists.  Again,  good luck with that business plan.  

      msginsd
      msginsd subscriber

      @Randy Dotinga @msginsd @Scott Lewis Um no.  No conspiracy.  You take yourself way too seriously.  Which is the real problem.  And btw, you're not funny.  Reading the daily report is painful because you think you're funny.  You're not.

      Randy Dotinga
      Randy Dotinga memberauthor

      @msginsd @Scott Lewis What do you know about business plans? Are you a business person? I can't tell because I have no information about you other than a name, while you can find just about everything about me. (and I know something about them, and Scott knows more)

      obboy13
      obboy13 subscriber

      @msginsd @Randy Dotinga @Scott Lewis Well msginsd it's ok to think Scott Lewis is beating a dead horse; and yeah maybe Dotinga won't be hosting the Tonight Show any day soon, but all your observations only make me wonder why you keep reading.  Beating a dead horse is tame compared to the self-flagellation you endure each day when you log in here.  

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      While there is much attention to Mr. Bosnich's and Mr. Harper's allegations, I think the Jorgensen primary campaign had a far greater impact on the runoff election. Mr. Bosnich is quoted here as stating, "I think some of the homophobic groups and attacks that Jorgensen linked himself to were disgusting and reprehensible." 

      This race is a microcosm of the Republican party's problems. A significant minority of their adherents locally and nationally are social conservatives. They vote in much higher percentages than the average voter and perhaps (when the candidate it so their liking) the average Republican. DeMaio's candidacy was probably a bridge too far for them, but this might have been less stark were it not for Jorgensen's primary candidacy. He was the anti-DeMaio Republican and the straight man. The differentiation between himself and DeMaio in the primary inevitably led to heavy focus on DeMaio not being the choice of social conservatives. Meanwhile, Scott Peters is a fairly moderate guy, backed by the national Chamber of Commerce, and heterosexual. Socially conservative Republicans may not have voted for Scott Peters, but many probably couldn't bring themselves to vote for DeMaio. This is going to be an increasing problem for Republicans nationally. They must either become more socially conservative or veer away from social conservatives and find some other equally committed block of voters. I don't see how they succeed at either.

      Regarding Mr. Bosnich, his allegations are not much different than those of others in the workplace who complain about sexual harassment. They are very hard to confirm or deny. The fact that Mr. DeMaio's campaign has a history of intentional deceit regarding emails and electronic media makes their efforts to use emails to deny the accusations essentially impossible. I have a very hard time following the timelines and so on with regard to Mr. Bosnich, but he certainly doesn't seem any less credible than Mr. DeMaio's campaign machine on these issues. People may or may not have believed his allegations, but even for those social conservatives that did not believe them, the Bosnich allegations were a reminder that Mr. DeMaio represented something repellent to them. 

      I view Mr. DeMaio quite negatively, not primarily for his politics, but for the manner in which he practiced them, which was heavily aimed at pointing fingers at others in the most odious way. I greatly dislike demagoguery. Thus, I am happy to see that he says he’s done with politics. The rest of this is a sideshow. Too little, too late.

      Scott Lewis
      Scott Lewis moderator administratormember

      @Chris Brewster I disagree that it's too late to vet the truth. I think it's important for us to know as much as we can about who lied and who the victims were. The readership data would indicate that many others do as well. Feel free not to read any of the rest. Should be done soon.

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Mr. Lewis: Thanks. Any idea how CNN got this story before local media? I had the impression they had it and were working on it for some time prior to October.

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Mr. Lewis: Thanks, but you're not going to get off that easy. I'd have liked to know the truth before the election. It's value thereafter declined precipitously, especially with Mr. DeMaio's loss. I remain flummoxed as to what may be the truth. Perhaps that will come with installment IV. 

      Scott Lewis
      Scott Lewis moderator administratormember

      @Chris Brewster Sure, that would have been nice. The story didn't break until October. I had not been able to find the accuser until CNN went with its story. We did our best to make sense of what was being said while it was coming out. DeMaio, in particular, was not interested in discussing his side of it at all or sharing any of this stuff. I explained that above. The police affidavits, which provoked this analysis, were not unsealed until after the election.

      Scott Lewis
      Scott Lewis moderator administratormember

      @Chris Brewster someone gave CNN the tape of Bosnich's interview to KFMB, which never ran. I suspected it was Peters' camp, because a copy of it was given to his campaign manager. But she denies giving it to anyone other than her lawyer.

      obboy13
      obboy13 subscriber

      @Chris Brewster Chris, I generally agree with your comments which I find to be rational and well presented.  That being said, it's time to lighten up here.  In my opinion it's never too late to determine if our elected officials/wannabe elected officials have been lying to us.  Particularly in the case of Carl DeMaio, as I have a hard time believing he's really done with seeking political office, if the truth comes out and helps to prevent him from getting elected again, then I'm all for it.  Maybe one day Scott will tell us what he believes since I'm not sure rehashing the timelines will bring out the truth, but hey if the timing is wrong for you, just click delete.


      Second point is I don't think we should expect too much in the way of breaking news from VOSD.  Stated differently, one of the reasons CNN got the story first may have been because they have a bigger budget and much larger viewership than VOSD.  I read VOSD for insight, depth, fact checking, and yes to see the comments without a UT filter.  These folks are good at what they do, but in my opinion their strength lies in in-depth reporting rather than scooping everyone each news cycle.  


      There, that's my two cents, and I've probably succeeded in pissing off both you and Scott.

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Mr. Darnell: Not at all. But I do find myself looking at a tangled ball of string here. If there's an answer in the end, it may be worth it. So far, I'm no more comfortable that we know the truth. I don't know about you. As for VOSD versus CNN, I have hopes that local journalists should have better sources in the local community. There was talk that rumors about all this were out there, but no one published them for various reasons. That worries me because CNN isn't going to be a reliable watchdog on local political issues. 

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Mr. Lewis: Thanks for this. Question: Is it ethically appropriate to publish speculation of this sort? I don't know all the ins and outs of journalistic ethics.

      Randy Dotinga
      Randy Dotinga memberauthor

      @Chris Brewster Local journos are pretty well connected. In this case, I'll bet the leaker was going for national impact, hoping that would trickle down and force the local media to pay a lot of attention. If so, it worked. (The leaker may also have wanted national attention in order to get the national GOP to rethink its financial support of the DeMaio campaign. If this percolated up at the local level, it might have never gone national at the high level of CNN.)


      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Interesting! Still though, I wonder if it made a meaningful difference in the end. Who knows?

      obboy13
      obboy13 subscriber

      @Chris Brewster Well Chris, thanks for not getting mad, I pretty much agree that it's a very tangled ball of string.  Probably because all the parties involved believe in spin (read lies) when dealing with politics.  The very tangled nature of this political contest, the difficulty of corroborating what you believe, and each sides easy access to attorneys would have caused me to delay publishing anything until I felt secure in its veracity.  It's hard to verify rumors, and Scott Lewis would be able to discuss this better than I, but I believe it's the reason they worked on their story as long as they did. 

      However while not rising to the level of beyond a reasonable doubt, I personally don't think it's much of a stretch in believing that Carl DeMaio lied early, lied often, and lied consistently.  Coupled with his obsessions to put his face on TV, his name in print, and take credit for any positive event while deflecting any blame for his mistakes made him a poor councilmember and an even worse candidate for higher office. Ok, that's a mini-rant, and I'm done with the biased part of my response.


      Re Todd Bosnich, I'm inclined to cut him a little slack, but not much.  Although he's admitted telling a number of lies (often on behalf of Carl) unless he's had a change of heart and now wants to be a Democrat, he has caused significant damage to his career by speaking out.  That took either a truly naive belief that truth will triumph or an extreme degree of anger.  While there may be some inconsistencies in his recollection of dates, that doesn't alter the larger part of his story....and, even though Carl's people would have us believe one of them wasn't who he said he was, there are the other two staffers. 


      The questions surrounding Scott Peters are of little consequence to me since most of them were raised by Carl DeMaio or his surrogates.  What Carl described as a playbook and others have called a few mailers couldn't have been big news in the Peters camp.  Proof of that came out during the campaign since the only new allegations Carl had involved the theft of his playbook, and that couldn't have been in whatever it was that the Peters campaign received.  Certainly someone on Peters staff read through the material (does Carl expect anyone to believe he wouldn't have read Peters' material if someone had given it to his campaign) but I'll take the Congressman at his word that he was busy and didn't bother to review the documents.


      Finally, I share your hope for our local journalists, excluding of course the editorial group at the UT.  This who lied series I-IV has been interesting to me since I'm no longer as connected as I once was.  


      However, there are still some questions remaining. Principal among these is one I believe you first raised regarding our Chief of Police.  While I think she's done a fine job to date, I'd really like to know whether or not she kept Carl DeMaio personally advised regarding an ongoing investigation, and if so why?  So there you go Scott, I'm betting you can scoop CNN on that one.         

      Chris Brewster
      Chris Brewster subscribermember

      Mr. Darnell: I agree on pretty much all points. I still wonder though whether any of this changed enough minds that it had an influence on the election. I think most minds were made up well before the election and the polls were just plain wrong (again).

      obboy13
      obboy13 subscriber

      @Chris Brewster Yeah, I doubt we'll ever know how much effect this had on the election, but the optimist in me would like to believe with you that most voters had long ago figured out Carl and wanted no part of his act.  

      I know from my own perspective, limited as it is, I made up my mind years ago that I would sooner vote for Satan than Carl DeMaio.  In fact (and I can think of no more embarrassing  act I've committed in my life) I proved it by voting for Filner as the lesser of two evils.  Sigh.

      Todd.Bosnich
      Todd.Bosnich subscriber

      The DeMaio camp has now gone on the record giving three different dates for when I was fired. Has called all the emails that embarrass them to be "fabrications", but then rely on different emails to bolster their claims. They've now claimed Justin was an impostor, I was just an "intern" with an axe to grind, and that this was all a "conspiracy" orchestrated by Scott Peters to bring Carl down.  Carl's excuses and stories change almost every day now, yet it's everyone else that is lying. 


      I know it's difficult for Mr. DeMaio to accept the fact that the voters told him to get lost for a second time, but any neutral observer at this point would have to suspend their disbelief in order to believe Carl's constantly changing stories

      Mr. Roboto
      Mr. Roboto subscriber

      You have peaked my curiosity. Are you now disputing that you were not an intern for most of your time on the campaign?

      This article seems to indicate you were unpaid for November through March which would usually indicate an internship.

      Glenn Younger
      Glenn Younger subscribermember

      Humm...I'm not Republican, or gay, though I do know a couple of people who are.    


      It occurs to me that, in a race that got very down and dirty, this might have been the fatal blow.  

      Turns out that a scandal that focuses on both the sexual harassment and sexual orientation is the one-two punch to knock out any gay candidate.  We saw sexual harassment drive a mayor from office (as it should)  and that lesson may not have been lost on some from his party.  Add the gay element and it goes to another level.  

      KPBS may have been the quiet hero in this story.  They had an exclusive that they did not run.  Did they see something amiss with the allegations or the timing that others missed?  Or were they just more cautious? 

      amy roth
      amy roth subscribermember

      @Glenn Younger They did run it eventually -- as soon as the second accuser permitted them to use his name.