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Shrugging Shoulders about Chargers

Published: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:02 PM PDT



So the news broke this weekend that National City has pulled out of the rather quiet pursuit of a new Chargers stadium.

I guess this means I had better own up to something. I usually shy away from predicting things for a variety of reasons. One, I'm notoriously bad at it. Two, because it's hard for anyone to be good at it.

Disregarding my instincts, several months ago, I predicted that the Chargers would eventually settle on National City and create a proposal that we'd all now be chewing on. Oops.

I had a vague sense that an alternative on the waterfront would rise and be seriously considered. But I should have predicted it more on the "bay front" and included Chula Vista and, potentially, the 10th Avenue Terminal. But I went with National City and now I have to hold myself accountable.

National City's leaders were clearly the most ambitious of the bunch. They want a stadium in that city's boundaries and that passion is pretty starkly compared to the relative shoulder-shrugging of the officials in surrounding cities.

But they needed a bit more than passion. They needed land.

It is hard to tell if there is anything at all going on behind-the-scenes to develop a new stadium proposal. I think I and others have been under the assumption for some time that soon we would have a tangible plan for a new facility that we could start to pick at and probe and determine its worth. But so far -- about a year and a half since the Chargers withdrew their proposal for a new stadium in Mission Valley -- we haven't seen much more than snippets of the discussions about this or that potential site.

Sure there was this announcement several months ago from San Diego's mayor, city attorney and a pair of county supervisors. They were going to consider thinking about perhaps maybe in the future discussing the possibility of forming a regional joint powers authority that would look at the possibility of perhaps maybe in the future discussing and then acting on the hope of overseeing the funding and construction of a new stadium. (Voice in the back of your head: Whatever happened to that? Scott: Nothing. Nothing at all.)

The county has spent $90,000 on big-shot consultants who stayed in the Hotel Del Coronado and flew to New York on behalf of the county. In fact, the best the county has been able to spin this apparent waste of funds is with the contention that at least it didn't spend $110,000 and it didn't pay for the whole bill at the Hotel Del.

The strange secretiveness the county has exhibited about its expenditures on this issue has been well documented by Rob Davis.

Anyway, no more predictions from me. Though I will say this: The Chula Vista bay front seems like the most likely place for a proposal to be sited. But Chula Vista's politics these days are brutal. South Bay officials are trying to build a huge convention center for Gaylord Entertainment and it's going to take a bureaucratic tour de force to keep that project together.

I guess the point is this: If you're a Chargers fan thinking that something must be happening behind the scenes that will produce a new stadium to put on the ballot in November 2008, you might be misleading yourself. I sure don't sense the will to get anything like that done anytime soon.

-- SCOTT LEWIS




10 Comments so far on this story...

LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION............ National City and Chula Vista are closer to more Mexicans than to San Diegans. The huge population center of Tijuana is a convenient jaunt to either Chula Vista or National City. T'IS A LONG WAY FROM ENCINITAS, OCEANSIDE, ORANGE COUNTY,(BASICALLY, FROM THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES) TO CHULA VISTA. !!!NOW THE GOOD NEWS!!!----Chula Vista could not be more conveniently LOCATED to millions of Charger fans in Tijuana, and the rest of Baja California. What's touchdown, quarterback, turnover, in Spanish? PRIMERO Y DIEZ!!!

Posted by Gregory Duch | reply to this comment
May 14, 2007 10:43 am

Why are we subsidising entertainment? If the biggest builder of multiple units (condos and apartments) AG Spanos Co cannot make it work, what makes any government entity think they can? Oh Yeah, no accountability, and other people's money. Besides John Moores recieved 58 free acres of land. That's why Spanos wanted 60 at Qualcomm.

Posted by jim j del mar | reply to this comment
May 14, 2007 11:01 am

You want a prediction? How about NO ONE falls for the Chargers BS and they settle for the Q? No local cities or out of state cities want to deal with the likes of Spanos et al. Wake up and smell the dirty jocks.

Posted by Mike | reply to this comment
May 15, 2007 12:15 am

Ahhh...just daydreaming...wouldn it be nice if the Spanoses just sold the Chargers? Stadium "problem" solved.

Posted by D | reply to this comment
May 15, 2007 7:22 am

I cannot believe how many SMART people have commented here on the Spanos SCAM.....Jim J in Del Mar-you have hit the nail on the head, Spanos is a Billionaire builder and we are subsidizing HIM???? Forget that!........Mike-I think there are few people today that will go for the Spanos BS anymore......the taxpayer gravytrain has ended for the Spanos Crime Family........D-we do NEED new owners, Spanos et al have proven they can only wreck a winning team (B Ross, M Schotenheimer)...and last but not least, Gregory Duch-yes Greg, I am sure that there are MILLIONS of TJ Charger fans, but considering that more then HALF of Mexico's 110 million people live in poverty-I highly doubt that they will be paying the $75 ticket face prices....Go Chargers

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
May 15, 2007 10:35 am

I happen to love the Chargers and have since their arrival in San Diego. I think we should do anything we can to keep them. But, I DO have a prediction Scott. One I made more than 3 years ago and, you will see I am dead on in due time. Unfortunately, our pathetic city will lose their NFL team. Possibly to San Antonio. The Chargers are receiving numerous offers from other cities and will leave our joke of a big city as soon as their lease expires. Be happy if you want. It doesn't take much to please those with tiny little minds like BBH.

Posted by Charger Fan | reply to this comment
May 15, 2007 4:19 pm

With each season, the lease termination costs drop considerably. At some point, it makes more sense to leave than try to get anything done in the City of San Diego. It has been shown to be a total uphill battle with the Mayor saying he had no time or money to even deal with the issue. Aside from all the fans, the nonprofit agencies and the schools in the area will suffer. The politicos will continue slugging away and selling out the City of San Diego and then disappearing into obscurity.

Posted by The Roaming Gnome | reply to this comment
May 16, 2007 12:12 am

D...Great idea! Sell the Chargers and get this problem out of San Diego- brillant. Then the Spanoses can buy a nice big yacht (unless they already have one to suit their needs) and sail along with David Copley. Sales of his assets have done him well, so why not?

Posted by Norman | reply to this comment
May 16, 2007 2:37 am

Charger Fan-Please, feel free to donate YOUR money to Spanos-but don't try to donate MY money to him......and when YOU want to leave our "joke of a big city" don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out....wow, cannot believe my "tiny little mind" just came up with that......LOL.......

Posted by Bill Bob Henry | reply to this comment
May 16, 2007 2:38 am

Billy- Come on! We all know you have no money so what are you so worried about? I'm glad you're lol. I'm quite sure everyone else is too. You are soo witty. Maybe since I was here first, I should just throw you out that door and listen to you squeal like a schoolgirl. Isn't that what you do where you came from "Billy Bob."

Posted by Charger Fan | reply to this comment
May 16, 2007 8:07 am


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