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Aguirre's Evacuation

Published: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:39 PM PDT



I didn't want to touch this story about City Attorney Mike Aguirre advocating for an evacuation of the entire city of San Diego in the midst of the crisis Monday and Tuesday, but it finally got too compelling.

I called Aguirre to ask what he was thinking.

Let's start with this: It'd be one thing if it were just presented as an option with which he would try to assist the mayor and other government leaders. It's another thing if he were demanding that the city be evacuated and distracting people from their work. An evacuation would have the potential to itself be an obnoxious disaster. I simply cannot imagine the traffic on I-8 or I-15 if such an order was given. And if there were a fire burning through the city, I'd rather jump in the ocean than be stuck in traffic.

And anyway, it seemed like the height of unproductive hysteria.

After talking to Aguirre, it's pretty clear to me his suggestion was more than just an option -- Aguirre advocated it in early morning calls to Fire Chief Tracy Jarman, Police Chief Bill Lansdowne and Jill Olen, the city's deputy chief operating officer for public safety.

After they declined, as the U-T described initially, Aguirre had employees personally deliver a memo to the mayor that said the plan to evacuate the whole city should be "immediately implemented."

I asked him what he was thinking.

He said his recommendation was the "very best judgment I could give at the time." He said, correctly, that officials said the fire was completely out of their control. If that was true, and the winds kept blowing, it could go all the way to the coast. And, officials validated that point when they started advising evacuations of Solana Beach and Del Mar.

"I gave them that advice in confidence, I didn't say anything publicly. The mayor and police chief received it and they didn't think an evacuation was necessary, so I left it to their discretion," he said.

I asked why he wasn't satisfied with their verbal rejection of his idea -- why did he have to deliver a memo directly to the mayor:

"I wanted to make sure he understood the reasoning and saw it in writing. I wanted to make sure he understood that the weather conditions were so unpredictable that getting out of San Diego was an option and that if they did it, they needed to do it in a very well coordinated way," he said.

He said he wanted San Diegans to know that getting out of the city was an option and that it was a "gamble" not to give them that choice.

I thought that was kind of weird -- I didn't think I needed the government's permission to leave the city.

I asked if, in his view, we didn't have that option.

"The difference was we did not bring to the public's attention how serious it was at the time. In the end, I didn't have an argument with what the mayor said. He told residents that if they were worried, they could leave their neighborhoods," Aguirre said.

I asked him about rumors that he had flown to Arizona to coordinate some kind of evacuation. He said he had been in Phoenix over the weekend for a high school reunion and he didn't leave after returning Sunday from that.

If anything, this does illustrate Aguirre's natural instinct to determine that problems or threats have only the potentially most catastrophic consequences and that, therefore, you really should implement the most draconian measures possible to either solve the problem or avoid the consequences of the threat.

If he were mayor, that would be a downright scary instinct. But he's not.

-- SCOTT LEWIS




66 Comments so far on this story...

He says he thought his recommendation was made in confidence? Baloney. He put it in writing, and had it personally delivered, so that in the event things turned south and the entire city ended up in peril or worse, he would have the written proof of an I-told-you-so. Were that to have happened, does anyone think he would have viewed his recommendation as confidential, or does everyone instead know that he would have been before cameras waving his letter around? He is after this mayor, and if the city needs to suffer for him to get Sanders, so be it, whether its through bankruptcy or catastrophe. If his followers still believe in him, I've got some land for sale.

Posted by I've got some land for sa | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 1:31 pm

Wonderful job Scott. I think you just need one last sentence to say it all. "THANK GOD"

Posted by DOROD | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 1:32 pm

When I heard of Mr. Aguirre's suggestion, I too thought it was either taken out of context or had been exaggerated by his detractors in an attempt to make him seem foolish. His confirming to you that he did seriously suggest the city be evacuated shows that he is not fit to hold office. He needs to be removed during the next election cycle, if not sooner.

Posted by Dukestir Wilkes | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 1:40 pm

I wouldn't think a whole City would evacuate unless the Martians were attacking, there was a nuclear attack or some huge terrorist attack, or maybe a comet was going to hit.

Posted by Marieg | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 1:41 pm

Thank God he is not Mayor. But now he's going to waste more money on yet another boring report he plans to release next week regarding "the truth" of what really happened. Spare me! As long as he remains in office, The City is doomed. And tally another loss for him on his umpteenth appeal to the Calif. Supreme Court yesterday ... which the court ordered certified for publication...for shame, for shame that he's San Diego's City Attorney!

Posted by Sunny | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 1:45 pm

When the City Attorneys memo for_a_volunteer evacuation plan_was written on Monday, October 22, no_one knew where the_fire would go. link Point 2 stated Access Routes May Be Unavailable, Making Future Evacuation Impossible. During the_fires, stretches of_both Interstates 5 and 15 were closed. Portions of State Roads 67, 76, 78, 94 are still closed to_traffic. link Point 3 was to Limit Citizens Exposure to Hazardous Air Quality and its Adverse Health Impact. The County of San Diego Air_Pollution Control_District agrees. link In areas of heavy smoke, assume that air quality levels are unhealthy for sensitive groups to unhealthy and possibly hazardous for all individuals. The State of California Air Resources Board link warned that unhealthful conditions caused by smoke from wildfires are likely to persist throughout much of Southern California until next week. The government is still studying the_2001 health effects of smoke and ash from the WTC link

Posted by La Playa Heritage | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 2:29 pm

Some of Aguirre's actions and statements have been outageous. Within San Diego politics and media, personalities are more important than issues. "Slash and burn" destruction of the opposition has been characteristic of political life in SD. I'd rather have an alternative VOICE --even if it is eccentric, than a MONOTONE oligarchical power-elite choir of voices. Barry Goldwater, the late ultra-conservative senator from Arizona said he ran for president to "offer a voice, not an echo". LBJ, as president, was surrounded by yes-men; nobody dared say NO to the war in VietNam. The rest is history--but also-current events as revisited in Iraq.

Posted by Greg Duch | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 2:31 pm

Does anyone else feel as though it is a little bizarre that Donna Frye has not been visible throughout this entire ordeal? I haven't seen her at Qualcomm or the OEC or anywhere else for that matter... Is she out of town? Can anybody answer this question???

Posted by WHERE'S DONNA | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 2:39 pm

It is readily apparent that Sunday/Monday events were beyond experts ability to predict. Fires are out of control and ring the city, wind is howling, firemen say they can do nothing, and are shocked at speed of spread. Seems prudent we consider abandoning city rather than dismissing idea. I still like Mike for speaking his mind. The people that made final decisions were lucky they worked in their favor. The region was very lucky on Monday.

Posted by MtGoat | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 3:00 pm

ANY INDIVIDUAL whom Bob Kittle and the U-T oppose are subsequently trashed to death, day after day in articles and editorials. Eventually, each is made an "ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE".--THE POWER OF THE POISON PEN IS ALWAYS AT WORK AT THE U-T.

Posted by Greg Duch | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 3:00 pm

*****Yawn*******

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 3:36 pm

So, are you saying you think his evacuation recommendation for the City of 1.5 million, which would logically apply to the county of 2.7 million, was sound? Really?

Posted by Mr. Duch | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 4:20 pm

If it was a confidential (attorney-client) memo to the Mayor, then it was the client (Mayor) not Aguirre (attorney) who had the right to publicize the memo. The attorney giving the advice has no expectation of privacy. Anyone who continues to support Aguirre after this is delusional.

Posted by AguirreWrathofGod | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 4:32 pm

Alright, everyone just calm down. Mike A is a politican so why is everyone surprised he is trying to use the fire and evacuation--all or part of the city--as a political game? Come on folks.... He's just doing what people like him do--dominate, intimidate and harrass people into doing what he wants. It is ALL about him. He doesn't care one whit about anyone else. Unfortunately, the media part his dream early on and he was emboldened and how he is nearly out of control. Hopefully he will soon be a footnote in our region's history....

Posted by Southof8 | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 4:34 pm

Thank heavens the media didn't given Aguirre airtime locally, or worse nationally, on this insane proposal. The rest of the nation already believes we are the land of fruits and nuts. The panic this preposterous evacuation would have created is unimaginable. Our county, city, and civic leaders implemented plans brilliantly and the reverse 911 proved highly successful. Aguirre needs to be taken out of office, sooner than later.

Posted by Simone | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 4:59 pm

I wondered the same thing about Donna; perhaps she's the one that really, really went to Arizona to work out The Plan to Evacuate San Diego.

Posted by Sunny | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 5:05 pm

Just sitting here watching "Independence Day," yeah, evacuation would work. I think this memo will go down in history and will be talked about for years to come. It will probably be used in the debate to justify having an appointed city attorney. I sure would like an autographed original to frame. So let's do it! Start walking west Mike, we'll be right behind you.

Posted by Jim Carter | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:03 pm

I would much rather have someone with some degree of expertise in disaster preparedness be advising the mayor and other Cities and County officials on an appropriate evacuation plan, if needed. Perhaps someone with a degree in fire science who has an understanding on fuel loads, wind, etc., for instance. I understand the fires were out of control, and there was a degree of guessing, but an educated and informed guess for where the fire might go is better than EVERYONE GET OUT NOW.

Posted by Kat | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:12 pm

The fact that no one knew where the fire was going is (a) not justification for deciding to evacuate the ENTIRE city and (b) has nothing to do with the fact that Aguiree is the City Attorney, not the Fire Chief, not the Mayor, etc., etc., etc. IT IS NOT HIS JOB to provide advice to the mayor on emergency planning. IT IS HIS JOB to provide legal advice to the mayor, a job which he consistently fails to do and when he does do it, does so with gross incompetence. And since Billy Blob seems too tired to post tonight, let fill in for him: It's all the fault of the welfare queens. They scammed Mikey into writing the letter. They are part of the vast conspiracy which includes the mayor, the entire pension system, the City Council (except for Donna Frye), the governor,thecourts,e

Posted by Inez | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:14 pm

I'm with Simone. Aguirre needs to go. The Mayor did an excellent job responding to this - he didn't need a "hysteria" carrying mosquito buzzing around him handing out memos on how to do his job ...

Posted by JohnsMom | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:26 pm

Gloomy-would YOU please go to AZ to work out an evacuation plan-and please work on it for AT LEAST 10 years-then report back.

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:28 pm

I don't know---maybe Donna Frye is pouring over city financial numbers trying to figure out how the budget is going to absorb the monetary hit for this catastrophe? Perhaps she has been interacting with some of the legislative majority in Sacramento requesting some financial assistance from Nunez and Peralta? Or, just maybe, she's staying out of the way and not being one too many of the chiefs standing before the cameras. You know, let the people in charge lead without unproductive interference. C'mon Sunny, et al.--give your agenda(s) a rest for a couple of weeks--thousands of fellow citizens have lost their homes. Please consider focusing, and displaying some empathy towards the immediate picture. Additionally, kudos for Mr. Maeinschein for walking the burned area of RB and posting the tragic addresses post haste. That was a councilman doing a tough, but important thing.

Posted by Dale Peterson | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 6:53 pm

The Voice of San Diego has done a diservice to the public by not mentioning that the letter outlined the implementation a "voluntary evactuation" program for the entire City. The memo called for a program to provide someone wanted to voluntarily leave a path to follow and a specific destination that a person could go to. Remember, at the time it was issued the I-15 was closed and the I-5 was threatened by flames. The memo also recommended the implementation of a plan to select neighborhoods one at a time specifically to avoid massive gridlock that SLOP mentioned he would rather jump into the ocean to avoid. This memorandum was not a "Reverse 911" call to the entire City requiring that everyone leave at the same time. It's interestiing that the memo is not posted on the web site to allow people to read and judge for themselves.

Posted by Please... | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 7:08 pm

Scott...if you haven't gotten an offer yet from the UT I suspect you will. You'd fit right in there with your perspectives and agenda.

Posted by Norman | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 8:51 pm

Can you imagine what the County would have been like with 1.3 million residents of San Diego trying to leave town? I think that had we all left on Monday, we would still be trying to get out of town today due to traffic. That's gotta be the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard. Makes no sense at all.

Posted by ann | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 8:52 pm

The only resident who should evacuate the city is Aguirre. The sooner the better. In fact, I'll help him pack.

Posted by Nicole | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 9:11 pm

I agree this does sound nuts. But on the other hand.....people who thought that they were in no danger are fooling themselves. Rancho Bernardo thought it was a suburban neighborhood with fire protection until this week. If the winds had not died down, there is no telling what else would have burned. That's why I had my car packed even though I live in North Park. Remember when terrorists running planes into skyscrapers was a crazy idea?

Posted by Carrie Schneider | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 9:25 pm

Aguirre is toast (pun intended!). Now, can we just keep him as the City mascot?

Posted by oh the horror | reply to this comment
October 25, 2007 9:28 pm

thank you to those who continue to support the little man after this incident. We know for sure now how much koolaid you've imbibed and will discard any opinion of yours in the future as unserious. I thank God neither Aguirre nor you has the power to compel evacuation.

Posted by Frank1 | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 3:32 am

To "Where's Donna" and "Sunny", Looking for Donna Frye? Check Aguirre's pocket.

Posted by MG | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 4:38 am

Cut Donna some slack, why should she "be" anywhere? Where would she be? And why should cameras give her time? This is a regional issue for Presidents, Governators, Mayors and Supes. Council? It impacted just Maienschein & Peters' district - you don't see Young, Atkins or the like around do you? Come to think of it, with the Otay evacs, where was Ben Hueso?

Posted by Tom S. | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 5:36 am

Like I said before - Mike Aguirre - Master and Commander.

Posted by Fuzzy Bunny | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 6:56 am

If you follow Supervisor Jacobs comments during the last big fire, Gov. Davis was the cause. Perhaps erring on the side of caution should be lambasted more. Then we could all go out and read "The end of Reason", then throw it in the fire as well. Right on Mike, speak truth to power, and that bow tie wearing idiot at the UT.

Posted by Eight Hats In The Closet | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 6:59 am

In North County entire neighborhoods were evacuated on less evidence of fire than what happened in the city of San Diego. They evacuated them because they couldnt get to them if things went "south". So all you fire chiefs out there keep on fighting those fires from your barcolounger while watching Fox news.

Posted by Eight Hats In The Closet | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 6:59 am

Scott is correct. Mr. Aguirre only THINKS he is mayor. I don't know if that qualifies as schizophrenic, but it's scary enough for me. I recommend some serious therapy if he was truly serious about this evacuation scenario. Meanwhile, a resignation would be an honorable path. I cannot recall a more divisive politician (with the possible exception of Bruce Henderson) in my forty years hereabouts. Of course, that doesn't mean we didn't have one; we seem to breed them in the county. Kudos to the balance of local leadership for it's collective handling of this nightmare event.

Posted by Tom Jackson | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:18 am

At least Aguirre did not hold a press conference which could have started a panic. Some minor progress here. Unfortunately, the fact that his crazy City-wide evacuation idea was his "best judgment" shows clearly that Aguirre is severely lacking in good judgement. I hope those that have continued to support Aguirre can finally see the light.

Posted by Dick | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:25 am

Ann asks (I assume rhetorically): "Can you imagine what the County would have been like with 1.3 million residents of San Diego trying to leave town?" That, I believe, was the point of the memo, which the anti-Aguirre deep pockets at Voice apparently don't want you to read. Wonder why....

Posted by TY | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:36 am

Let's note that the Mayor, et. al. didn't just ignore Aguirre's evacuation plan suggestion--they promptly reported it to the U/T editorial board, so they could rally the WE HATE MIKE CLUB, with innuendo and a cartoon, while the county burned.

Posted by Steve K | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:45 am

Wow the all knowing Aguirre supporters are pretty quite. He's our version of Chicken little always screaming about some sky falling. I would like to say thank you to the Emergency service workers or in BBH words the (WELFARE QUEENS) for saving our butts during this crisis. This showed exactly why they deserve the best pay, the best equipment possible! The City should have an appreciation day for them to show our gratitude.

Posted by BC | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:52 am

Wow the all knowing Aguirre supporters are pretty quiet. He's our version of Chicken little always screaming about some sky falling. I would like to say thank you to the Emergency service workers or in BBH words the (WELFARE QUEENS) for saving our butts during this crisis. This showed exactly why they deserve the best pay, the best equipment possible! The City should have an appreciation day for them to show our gratitude.

Posted by BC | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 7:52 am

As unfortunate as the La Jolla landslide was, it kept Aguirre from politicizing the wildfires, and turning a bad situation into a worse situation. He learned his lesson after exploiting the first disaster. Follow the poll numbers and political trends, Aguirre is headed out of office and he knows it. Scary thought ...could you imagine if Frye was mayor? The woman couldn't even make it out of bed to help at the central evacuation center - Qualcomm - in her district. Pathetic.

Posted by Scott | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 8:06 am

Very sloppy "reporting" on your part, Scott. Thanks for dragging Voice down to the level of just another worthless blog.

Posted by Larry | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 8:06 am

If the recommendation to evacuate the entire City of San Diego was the "very best judgment I could give at the time," then what does this say about Mike's judgment or, rather, the lack thereof? It is absolutely frightening to think that the City Attorney for the seventh largest city in the United States has this kind of warped judgment. This baffoon needs to step down from office, be recalled (my personal preference), or be defeated at the polls in November 2008. Provided the City can afford to wait that long to get rid of Aguirre, who has only served to make the City's problems that much harder to resolve and much more costly, to boot. No one, and I mean no one, could script the things that have come out of Mike's mouth. Absolutely no one!

Posted by CeeMac | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 8:17 am

Well folks, let's step back a moment and look at Aguirre's idea given that we've had firestorms twice and only through some degree of good fortune did not lose the city to the flames. Imagine what would happen if a major fire engulfed much of the city proper? Where would you go? If the freeways were out, where could you go? We'd all be backed up on the beaches, suffocating in smoke and hoping for a Dunkirk if we are lucky and getting Stalingrad when we're not. A plan to get San Diegans out of harms' way is a good idea. When you're done bashing the messenger, maybe you can bend a brain cell in that idea's direction.

Posted by Exit Stage Left | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 9:32 am

The Council meetings were adjourned. As legislative representatives of the City, they should have stood together as a team at the Q. So again, where was Frye? I didn't see Atkins either. And yes, there is proof Motor Mouth Mikey was at the Q ... maybe the Voice of San Diego could post a snapshot of him and his high priced team of Chung and Bamberg, under their makeshit tent, with a sign that read "Crisis Counseling" with arrows on the sign which measured the length of their table -- can you believe that? I can't stop laughing!

Posted by Sunny | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 9:37 am

Reader "Scott" wants us to imagine if Frye were mayor. Back in May she sent a memo to Panders asking for greater attention to brush management staff. (link: link Yes, imagine better fire hazard abatement and planning. Imagine if a mayor had cared to heed that advice. As far as emergency response, with her well known habits of hard work, understanding the issues and sleepless nights, I have no doubt she'd be doing an equally excellent job coordinating resources and informing the public, as other officials are doing.

Posted by Tom S. | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 10:07 am

Donna wasn't doing photo ops. I saw Donna Wednesday when she was part of the volunteer food service effort serving lunch to evacuees and emergency staff at Qualcomm. She was pitching in like lots of other folks from all walks of life. So get off her case! What did Wheresdonna? and Dale Peterson do beside monitor the blog?

Posted by elteedblu | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 10:11 am

I am not a huge fan of Donna - actually come to think of it, I'm not fans of any of them - but just because she was not elbowing her way onto tv like Madaffer, Boxer, Feinstein, Issa, Bilbray and so many others, does not mean she was not doing anything. I suspect she was out there somewhere providing assistance and comfort to those who needed it. The true test of our elected leaders will be in the coming months when they have to grapple with the continued budget shortfall and at the same time figure out how to ensure our region is prepared and safe in the event of other major disasters.

Posted by Dukestir Wilkes | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 11:29 am

Dear elteedblu---perhaps you should re-read my post within this stream. I was complimenting Donna Frye. Unlike some of her more camera conscious collegues, she "walks the talk."For example, please see the water utilization records. Also, I do a little more (community wise) than monitor and comment on blogs---especially during the last week. And finally, I'm one of the few people that make occasional comments on the VOSD and use MY OWN NAME. A few of you might consider giving it a try. Anyway, Donna Frye is a special person. Doesn't surprise me at all that she was at Qualcomm helping out.

Posted by Dale Peterson | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 12:02 pm

I'm not concerned about this. Yes, it seems foolish and will be used by detractors to fuel their campaign against Mike. Put in perspective though I still believe Mr. Aguirre is the best defense we have against out of control corruption and developer's interests in SD. I'm willing to forgive a few mistakes in judgement - especially in the midst of so much mis-information during the early stages of the fire. Hell, the SD Sheriff has been saying 1M people were evacuated and this dwarfs Katrina in that respect.

Posted by Mike (not Aguirre) | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 12:14 pm

THANK YOU SCOTT for this article. Its all been said, so I'll just say ditto ... Mikey is nuts. And hey, Scott, all you have to do for your next article is one sentence...'what do you think of Mike Aguirre', and you can fill pages with reader's comments. Don't stop... these articles are great.

Posted by Dimples | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 12:32 pm

Okay, here's a plan for sea evacuation from SD; take those mothballed navy ships in South Bay and the Midway, fill 'em full of whoever shows up and use whatever else has power and a tow line to take them out to sea and prepare to go as far as Long Beach or Ensenada. Should we have a firestorm in the city, that may save thousands if they're tightly packed. I suppose the rest of you geniuses can do better; let's hear it.

Posted by Exit Stage Left Again | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 12:46 pm

Mike (not Aguirre) - given Mike (Aguirre's) defending against developer's interests, do you think he will allow the homes that just burned down to be rebuilt in a timely fashion? Or will he fight it tooth and nail like he always does?

Posted by Dukestir Wilkes | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 12:58 pm

Hey Steve K, what evidence do you have that Sanders leaked the memo to the UT editorial board? Also, how is disclosure of this memo a leak? It is a written memo from one public official to another, containing no legal advice, that is completely subject to disclosure as a public record. If the advice is good, as Mike's delusional supporters maintain, why not make it public so we can make the choice to evacuate? You're too blind to answer that objectively. And Norman, what's your beef with Scott? Does the memo not speak for itself? Hasn't Scott given Aguirre a fair airing of his views and explanation? Is it unfair to ask Mike about a memo he had hand-delivered to our Mayor? How?

Posted by Really? | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 1:28 pm

Aguirre's advice to evacuate the entire city with his obvious lack of expertise is frightening. A wise man knows his limits. This ego has no limits. What makes him think he was called upon by his office to serve the busy fire chief with his written advice. (I want to see that letter) I am begining to believe that he should be called "Mad Mike" for his crazy attack dog attitude; he repeatedly calls "wolf" based on his gut feeling to paltry and poorly investigated evidence. This is not the judgment I want prosecuting crimes or advising the city counsel and/or mayor. No wonder they have lost faith in his advice. I'm afraid he may do real harm soon.

Posted by Afraid | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 2:06 pm

I find it hilarious that the blind Aguirre lapdogs can't do anything better than claim the VoSD is out to get him, or that the VoSD is now a tool of the Copleys. Please. One need not be a supporter of the status quo to recognize incompetence and megalomania when it's staring you in the face.

Posted by Jim | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 4:54 pm

Here's what I learned about Sanders' leadership abilities during Wildfire 2007: 1) He knows how to say "Thank You"; 2) He knows how to keep his white shirts spotless; and 3) He knows where the cameras are set up.

Posted by TY | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 5:21 pm

Hueso was in Otay Mesa where he was needed. Frye was with her District 2 peeps. Mickey Agguire was out in left field as usual.

Posted by rLAX | reply to this comment
October 26, 2007 11:06 pm

Billy Bob Henry wrote on October 25, 2007 4:36 PM: "*****Yawn*******" Mr. Duch wrote on October 25, 2007 5:20 PM: "So, are you saying you think his evacuation recommendation for the City of 1.5 million, which would logically apply to the county of 2.7 million, was sound? Really?" Greg Duch: "No, I never said that. I said that I prefer a variety of many divergent voices to a monopolistic media master, (Kittle & Co. @ the Union-Tribune). They have way too much power for any ONE media OUTLET. COPLEY & KITTLE OWN SAN DIEGO. THEY are the Voice of San Diego."

Posted by Greg Duch | reply to this comment
October 28, 2007 3:24 pm

I have never met Mike Aguirre, nor talked to Mike Aguirre. But, I have read the U-T. It is extremely biased and slanted. It as poor an excuse for journalism as I have ever read, this side of dictator-run countries. The U-T thrives on character destruction, and juvenile innuendo and inferences, like saying someone wants all 3 million San Diegans on a caravan out of town. If you are on their enemies list. They'll drown you in mud. That is unethical and unprofessional.

Posted by Greg Duch | reply to this comment
October 28, 2007 3:25 pm

Well Greg, San Diegans are burdened with two truths: The U/T is a slanted, unethical rag, AND, Mike Aguirre is a whackjob (in all matters) who really wanted the city evacuated to Arizona. Such is life here in the city.

Posted by D | reply to this comment
October 29, 2007 7:33 am

I never said the mayors office 'leaked' the memo; I noted that they didn't just ignore it. Sunday night they threw the WE HATE MIKE CLUB a bone, via the U/T. 'No biggie--business as usual.

Posted by Steve K | reply to this comment
October 29, 2007 7:56 am

For those of you who think the U/T has it out for Mikey, think again. Their stories have been cautious, watered-down versions of what the man is really like. None of you Aguirre supporters have spent any time with him behind closed doors to have him demand something of you that puts your bar card in jeopardy. Do you really think he's fired all those attorneys because they were hell-bent on being Unethical? If you do, then you don't know any of those people or the circumstances they were put in. Put the kool-aid down for a minute and recognize these few unethical Aguirre highlights: (1) Aguirre publicly accuses others of criminal conduct when no charges are filed; (2) Aguirre officer criminal immunity to benefit his civil case; (3) Aguirre lied about laying off neighborhood prosecutors over the last budget. No one has ever defended these actions...big surprise. Kool-aid anyone?

Posted by Rock On | reply to this comment
October 29, 2007 11:25 am

As City Attorney, Aguirre has a duty to inform City officials about potential legal risks. If the winds hadn't shifted east, the City could well have burned, particularly given category I and II hurricane force winds in some areas, according to fire officials. If that happened and a million or more people were trapped, the damage would be immeasurable. The City should give serious thought to how it would evacuate downtown. With ocean on the west, a border fence on the south, and freeways to the north that have twice closed due to fires coming from the east, it is not inconceivable that San Diego could become a giant funeral pyre. In the Cedar Fire, highways 8, 15, 805 & 163 all closed, leaving 5 the only escape route. Perhaps a contingency to have cruiseship evacuations plus planes to evacuate people from Lindberg Field, should be adopted.

Posted by Liberty Belle | reply to this comment
October 30, 2007 12:05 am

I don't think the U/T has it in for Aguirre; I know the Editor of the Editorial Page is a charter member of the WE HATE MIKE CLUB.

Posted by Steve K | reply to this comment
October 30, 2007 12:25 pm

Posts with overly personal attacks or unsubstantiated allegations may be edited or deleted expecially if it is our friend. So where is my Post from 10/30/2007 around 11AM? I must have fallen in that Category because my Post was about the UT and their Truthful and unbiased Opinion about others - Ha Ha Give me a Break will ya - I guess the UT is Protected Turf...

Posted by Donald Reno | reply to this comment
October 30, 2007 1:26 pm


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