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Longing for Another Shot

Published: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:55 PM PDT



One thing stuck with me after working on this column about the City Council race in District 3, and I finally had a chance to follow up on today.

Some say John Hartley is actually the frontrunner in the race based on a poll commissioned by the labor unions that showed him with a commanding lead based on his name recognition in the district. He's facing some tough and ambitious opponents who are well organized and raising money a lot more effectively than Hartley. But name recognition is a big deal.

That name recognition comes largely, I would assume, from Hartley's stint as a member of City Council for four years from 1989 through 1993.

Hartley decided not to run for reelection in 1993. Instead, he supported one of his staff members -- a woman named Christine Kehoe, who obviously won his seat and has gone on to a long career in local and state politics.

So my lingering question was this: Why did Hartley not run for re-election? As an incumbent he must have had a pretty good shot at winning another term? What turned him off?

"I found that it was a world of duplicity. You have city staff, lobbyists -- it's a world where people always want to use you for some reason," Hartley said.

Interesting.

"I had to learn how to deal with my own staff. I didn't do a very good job of dealing with my own staff. I was trying to be my own manager and I didn't do a very good job," he said. "You have to have a good manager and let them deal with the staff. Then the council person can tackle problems and find solutions."

I asked him why he would want to get back into it. If the people you deal with are obnoxiously duplicitous and he had trouble dealing with staff, what makes him think it would be better this time around?

He asked if I was married. I am. He asked how long. I said five years. Then he said, "OK, remember what you were like when you were dating? Now think about what you are like now."

Good point, I suppose. While cool, of course, I was kind of strange five years ago. I did have more hair though. Jokes aside, I understood what he meant: Sometimes you look back on yourself only a year or two ago and wonder what you could have been thinking.

"Once I understood the system -- I wasn't used to it and ready for it. While we accomplished a lot I didn't enjoy it -- the setting," Hartley said.

He said this time around, he would hire a strong manager to be chief of staff for him. "I'll let him work his magic. He'll be working with staff and they will answer to him" Hartley said.

So if he did have trouble with his management before, what has changed since, what has he done in the time away from City Hall? Hartley often mentions his accomplishments as a member of the City Council at that time: his contribution to the development of satellite police stations; the implementation of citizen patrols, etc.

What has he done since? Hartley worked professionally as a real estate broker and a substitute teacher and gravitated to neighborhood groups. He helped form Neighborhoods for Clean Elections, which is advocating for public financing of campaigns. He also led Friends of the Library until the campaign started and Partners for Safe Neighborhoods.

I think he answered the question. He got out because he had trouble managing his staff and didn't like the people he had to deal with at City Hall.

He's getting back in, he says, because he has to.

"I tried to get out of it. But it has me. It drew me back in," Hartley said.

Major Update: Whoa.

-- SCOTT LEWIS




18 Comments so far on this story...

I cringed when I saw Hartley was running again. It doesn't bode well that he will have his chief of staff do his work for him...have we learned nothing from the Mayor's unsuccessful attept to be a figurehead instead of a real leader? Hartley is business as usual on the Council, and I don't understand why people keep voting for the same kind of indifferent representatives. I live in his district but I won't vote for him unless there simply no one else but an Atkins supported candidate on the ballot (I've lost all respect for Atkins for failing to fulfill even one promise she made while walking the increasingly dirty and gang ridden streets of Normal Heights).

Posted by Leanne1 | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 11:02 am

Hartley did a lousy job of micromanaging the first time around. The councilman gives the marching orders and the chief of staff carries them out. Hartley had an incompetent chief (Kehoe) who was an incompetent councilman who had an incompentent chief (Atkins) who has been an incompetent councilman. Right on, Leanne1.

Posted by rposie | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 11:31 am

As a Normal Heights resident myself, Leanne1, I feel your pain (and I mean that in a serious way). That's why crime prevention is at the top of my district-based issues. So, I will offer, in an admittedly self-serving way, that you do indeed have other choices this time around in District 3 -- and I don't mean the "troika" of candidates that most of the media and the City Hall insiders are so focused on...

Posted by www.robert-lee.org | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 11:58 am

Mr. Hartley describes the way City Hall has always felt to me, when I've had to do business there--"a world of duplicity." Since he says he will hire a strong manager, for chief of staff, I suggest he name who he would hire, for this position, so the that voters, in his district, will know who they are voting for.

Posted by Steve K | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 12:14 pm

I'm disappointed to see that Mr. Hartley automatically assumes that his chief of staff will be a man. That kind of sexist attitude doesn't play well in district 3.

Posted by "Him"??? | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 12:27 pm

Hey Him? Maybe he already knows who he'd have for his chief.

Posted by Larry | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 12:38 pm

Don't count Hartley out. He did a great job for his district and would have been relected for another term if he had chosen to stay in the job. The fact that is former chief of staff is now a state senator speaks to that success. The 3rd district is lucky that Hartley's willing to jump back into the public arena and help clean up the mess at city hall.

Posted by Watcher | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 2:05 pm

Hartley changed those worthless yellow street lights back to streetlights that give out some more light. Sadly, Hartley hasnt proved himself successful in real life - a so so real estate salesman and other mundane grass roots public service jobs. Hartley always looks like he needs a haircut and needs to buy some new clothes. Those old rumpled kaki pants, scrufty shoes,and blue shirt are overdue for Father Joe's. He's always out and about the neighborhood but always by himself. Still, he didnt screw up the city as those following him did--"Ticket Guarantee & Pension Giveaway" Christine Kehoe and Krol Report's "Negligent" Toni Atkins. Other candidates Stephen Whitburn and Todd Gloria are both special interest candidates --gay, labor unions, lifelong politician wannabes. Hartley is probably the best of a sad lot but special interest gay money will buy yet another mindless puppet. Nothing changes.

Posted by J from 92115 | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 4:42 pm

According to a UT report, Hartley was picked up Thursday and arrested for public urination and masturbation. I think his candidacy is over.

Posted by Point Loman | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 8:03 pm

Knowing John personally, I am utterly shocked at the accusations in the U-T article. 'Whoa' was an apt link tag. I am always skeptical of citizen arrests, but I will certainly keep an open mind as the facts come out. I mean that's just wild. I can't imagine John getting wasted at all let alone that wasted.

Posted by RBurgundy | reply to this comment
March 27, 2008 10:41 pm

Innocent until proven guilty, remember? Besides, the way voters act in this town, an arrest is just good publicity for a candidate. An

Posted by Leanne1 | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 4:39 am

I'm not a supporter of Hartley, but this arrest just stinks. Look at the map. Clearly, he was out walking precincts and just had to take a wizz. He went behind some bushes to do so, and some zealot called the cops. Meanwhile, Art Madrid is passed out drunk on the sidewalk and gets a free ride home? Anyone else think we have our priorities backward? It shouldn't be a criminal offence to pee.

Posted by Fred Williams | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 6:04 am

As someone who has had her bushes peed on (perhaps by Mr. Hartley in his precinct walking), I can assure you it is an unpleasant stench. Maybe people have a right to act like beasts, but why do it on someone's property who has to live with the stinky residue long after the offender has passed? I think Mr. Hartley should have found a restroom. That's what I do. I certainly don't squat in someone's bushes.

Posted by Leanne1 | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 6:50 am

The UT just reported he was sitting in his truck taking a wiz. That doesn't sound so crazy to me. Really what's the difference if you are sitting in a truck or sitting on a camper porta poti? Wow that got blown out of proportion

Posted by Todd | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 1:53 pm

The UT just reported he was sitting in his truck taking a wiz. That doesn't sound so crazy to me. Really what's the difference if you are sitting in a truck or sitting on a camper porta poti? Wow that got blown out of proportion

Posted by Todd | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 1:53 pm

The UT just reported he was sitting in his truck taking a wiz. That doesn't sound so crazy to me. Really what's the difference if you are sitting in a truck or sitting on a camper porta poti? Wow that got blown out of proportion

Posted by Todd | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 1:53 pm

Hartley's sad sack behavior always baffled me. He doesnt appear to have any friends and his posture, grooming and old clothes made him look unsuccessful to say the least. I feel badly for him regarding his arrest without knowing additional information. The SDPD or the offended party should issue a statement as to whatever happened turned into an arrest. I find it hard to believe that the cops arrived before Hartley left. My neighbor's house was robbed and it took 18 hours for the cops to come. Several of their first calls were left on hold for a lot longer than it takes to pee or whatever. No man, even one of John's age, takes that long to finish.

Posted by J from 92115 | reply to this comment
March 28, 2008 2:16 pm

The last half of J's post is too true and pretty funny: "I find it hard to believe that the cops arrived before Hartley left. My neighbor's house was robbed and it took 18 hours for the cops to come. Several of their first calls were let on hold for a lot longer than it takes to pee or whatever." This whole episode is too bizarre -- even for San Diego -- and is now better left to our administrators of "justice." Hartley as a candidate for city council is cooked.I am voting for Steve Whitburn.

Posted by Fed Up | reply to this comment
April 4, 2008 11:01 am


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