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Election Winners and Losers: Frye and Sanders

Published: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:14 PM PST



OK, it's time to wrap up the Winners and Losers of the 2008 election. I have a couple more entries for the next few days.

First, it's time to wrestle with these two: City Councilwoman Donna Frye and Mayor Jerry Sanders. Were they winners in the last election? Or did they come out weaker?

Obviously, Sanders won reelection in June. Frye has two years left in her term. So, personally, they aren't going anywhere.

But they both were keenly interested in the last election. Ever since I asked for your thoughts on the Winners and Losers this round, I've gotten tons of emails arguing that Frye was a big loser in the election and others that said Sanders was the loser. It's a little hard for my big brain to square that. There's really no way, in my mind, that Sanders and Frye were both losers coming out of the Nov. 4 election. If one lost, it would be logical to conclude that the other won.

I think I'm going to come down on the middle. They both lost and they both won. But they come out of the election in much different places than they were before.

Let's start with the mayor. No doubt he was hoping that April Boling won in District 7 of the City Council and that Phil Thalheimer won in District 1. They lost and so the mayor lost. I also don't think he's all that excited about having Carl DeMaio on the City Council. Some Republicans heart the young wonk, DeMaio, but others think he's a powder keg that will blow up in their faces.

And while we're at it let's talk about this obsession over Republicans vs. Democrats on the City Council. I believe, and have argued for some time, that the supposed split between them is artificial. Right now, the two biggest buddies on the City Council are Jim Madaffer and Scott Peters, a Republican and a Democrat respectively. They agree on pretty much everything. DeMaio and Frye have teamed up too? The interparty admiration and intraparty warfare is not exclusive to either side.

I would bet $100, for instance, that the mayor is much more excited to work with Todd Gloria, a Democrat, than DeMaio. There are only a couple of votes a year that break down along party lines. More often than that, there's a deeper and more nuanced split: establishment vs. reformers; labor vs. business (which is not always the same as Dem vs. Rep); and sincerity vs. game playing.

Maybe you all can help me come up with a new way to describe the real division on the City Council. Is it just Rep. vs. Dem? No way, right?

But I digress. The mayor clearly had other hopes for how the City Council elections would turn out and the two big races went against him.

On the other hand, the mayor was engaged in a prolonged political death match with the city attorney. The mayor will march live for four more years. The city attorney is cleaning out his office. This is a big win for the mayor who says he's desperate to have a lawyer at his side to advise him and his staff on the big issues -- that Aguirre has provided only obstruction, if that, over the last couple of years.

This is a win, however, that comes with a price: Now the mayor has no excuse. Aguirre has been a fine foil for the mayor. Hiccups and hindrances can be blamed on the city attorney. At least, they could.

Now it's a whole new game. The mayor will have fewer excuses to get things done. We'll see if he does. Sure he can blame the City Council, and a more labor friendly body may oppose his privatization initiatives and any hopes for a new pension system. But a good leader could forge compromises in tough times with a City Council that sincerely accepts that we're in a financial downturn.

As for Frye, the calculation is similar. Did she come out stronger or weaker with the election results?

Well, before the election, she seemed to be working hardest for City Council candidate Stephen Whitburn, in his bid against Gloria (again, if the only thing that mattered on City Council was party affiliation, Frye would have no reason to get in this race as both Whitburn and Gloria are avid Democrats).

Obviously, Whitburn was beaten pretty handily in the race. And now Gloria might not be so happy with Frye. Though I doubt he'll hold much of a grudge, Gloria probably won't support Frye for City Council president. Whitburn would have.

Frye also donated to Aguirre's re-election campaign. She may not have knocked on doors until her knuckles bled for him, but she did support him. And now he's gone.

These two are losses.

On the other hand, Frye endorsed Sherri Lightner and Marti Emerald in their bids and was supportive of them. Think about who those two are replacing: Peters and Madaffer. They may work together like peas and carrots but those two have been anything but Frye's friends on the Council. Now two Democrats are replacing them and they appear at least open to listening to Frye. She's got a whole new group of potential friends.

This is a win.

Frye, along with City Councilman Kevin Faulconer, also shepherded Proposition C to the ballot. This set aside a portion of the budget to ensure Mission Bay and certain parks were protected.

This is another win.

No, Frye and Sanders did not get everything they wanted out of the last election. But they both got a couple of things they did want. And now they are both in a position to take advantage of it.

We'll see if they do.

-- SCOTT LEWIS




11 Comments so far on this story...

The real loser in this election wasn't Sanders, but the taxpayers. With Frye and her cronies having greater influence we will never see the change we need to fix the city's budget situation. What's good for Sanders is good for the City. Unfortunately, we have fools as a voting majority in Districts 7 and 1, so we end up with utterly vacuous fools like Emerald and Lightner joining the council. I guess they figure, hey, we've hit bottom, let's keep digging.

Posted by Ronald Truman | reply to this comment
November 17, 2008 5:54 pm

What a an idiotic partisan statement. Donna Frye is the only council person that does her homework. The rest of the previous council, including the democrats, spent all four years working to undermind her because they were brown nosers. Not one of them had an original thought; they had no interest in doing what was right for our city, they just wanted power and did not care how they got it. Frye's diligience, if the people of San Diego paid attention, made the others look stupid anf ineffectual.

Posted by Francene Blanchard | reply to this comment
December 11, 2008 3:50 pm

The real winners are the developers. I count 5 votes for every development,no matter how big, no matter where, no matter how destructive of the environment. The 5 votes are Faulconer, Gloria, Young, DeMaio, Hueso.

Posted by mel | reply to this comment
November 17, 2008 6:25 pm

Scott: I will take a shot at it... How about idealists v. pragmatists. The word reform can mean to many things to too many people... case in point... both Jerry and Donna bill themselves as reformers.

Posted by Basic Civics | reply to this comment
November 17, 2008 6:49 pm

Donna Frye didn't do anything to help Emerald or Lightner. She was too busy playing in the D3 race, not to the benefit of progressives in the city but to her and her alone. She wanted that vote for prez so badly she cut deals with DeMaio and only helped Whitburn while leaving the other two D's out to dry. Sanders has to start getting creative. The council lobbying by press release isn't going to get the job done any more. This is not the same council, they will stand up to him and not roll over like those clowns Peters, Madaffer and Atkins. Faulconer put his name on two feel-good-do-nothing propositions, just like Frye. That does not make him a winner. In fact, who does he play with in the political sandbox now? DeMaio? The two of them would make quite an interesting but irrelevant couple together.

Posted by Faulconer, Sanders, Frye = Los | reply to this comment
November 17, 2008 7:22 pm

And how, exactly, do we decide that Councilmember Frye didn't care about Districts 1 and 7? Both Councilmembers elect will be incredibly complimentary forces to the progressive, open and honest politics of Donna Frye. Sherri is a serious student, like Donna, with an engineering degree to boot. Marti, of course, is our now ELECTED troubleshooter who will help Donna look under all the rocks at City Hall. Let's ask them how they feel about working w/Donna? Most progressives I know backed Whitburn, Lightner and Emerald. Good thing we got two out of the three, and hopefully they can drag along their Democratic colleagues, in addition to Councilmember Frye, on more occasions than not.

Posted by Observer | reply to this comment
November 18, 2008 11:03 pm

My shot at the division at City Hall: tough-love v. brokerage. For the past ten years tough-love has meant shared sacrifice: cutting services, raising taxes/fees, and being willing to take a punch or a loss instead of a bad deal. For the most part, those folks haven't been in power. Brokerage is constructive partnership, deal-making, and access for competing interests. It should be clear that both are needed to run a city, but that we've been lopsided on the side of the brokers for far too long. The people and media of SD bear some responsibility for this. For his part, the Mayor went from brokerage in his first 2-1/2 years to suddenly reversing himself a month ago with baby steps toward tough-love.

Posted by Augmented Ballot | reply to this comment
November 17, 2008 10:36 pm

I hope that when/if Donna Frye runs for Mayor again, her opponent remembers that she contributed to Madman Mike Aguirre's re-election campaign.

Posted by donnajean | reply to this comment
November 18, 2008 8:09 am

I have been away, blessedly, and am now dizzy on returning to the computer to sort out fakey conundrums like the difference between San Diego "Democrats" and "Republicans", "reformers" vs. members of the "establishment," "idealists" as opposed to "pragmatists," and last but not least, "tough-love"rs contrasted with "brokers." Scott Lewis is right: the old labels just don't work. But how about a standard that demands elected officials who are honest, independent, intelligent, believe in public service over self-service and have a feeling for the community? Such persons could be either Dems or Reps or Independents; they could be progressives from either the hoi poloi or the establishment; they would need to be pragmatic as well as idealistic and, consequently, would be capable of tough-love or brokering a deal that was good enough for most people. Our sights are set too narrowly, hence all the duds.

Posted by Fed Up | reply to this comment
November 19, 2008 3:51 pm

Great response! I concur.

Posted by Francene Blanchard | reply to this comment
December 11, 2008 5:33 pm

The letter I posted yesterday referred to the 2004 election between Donna Frye and Jerry Sanders. The outcome of that election was curious to me. I know that it takes far longer to count all of the ballots than the time between the calling of the election, which is based upon a guess, than when someone is sworn in. Problems like this happens far more than most people know. My curiosity was peaked when it was reported in the UT, sometime after ALL the votes had been counted, that Donna Frye had won the 2004 election. I immediately called the Registrar of Voters and was told that after all the votes were counted, Donna Frye was the winner. OF COURSE it was hidden. No one in Voter Registration wanted it to get out and the head of the VR was a Republican.

Posted by Francene Blanchard | reply to this comment
December 11, 2008 3:35 pm


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