I realize I can’t propose 6,000 new residential units in Mission Valley without many in the community asking if that’s a typo.
The mixed-use development I proposed as part of Councilman Scott Sherman’s plan for the 166-acre Qualcomm stadium site included that unit count, along with 3 million square feet of office space and a more modest amount of retail and hotel space.
But the truth is, even with a new stadium built on about 60 of those acres, this is a site that could help San Diego become a true 21st century city. Here’s why:
• It is large, flat and ready, so it’s an easily developable site.
• It has a riverfront. That waterfront aspect will serve as a “premium” to the mixed-use development, creating value and recovering the riverfront.
• It’s adjacent to freeways and on a trolley stop. Creating access to the site from the freeways is a considerable, expensive but not insurmountable challenge. The opportunity to connect directly to those freeways is tremendously appealing, and the existence of the trolley stop makes it a transit-oriented project as well.
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"It has a riverfront."
oh, that's rich.
"the best way to think about the project is as a new destination"
and then the face-palm happens. yes, i would love an even larger, bland, corporate sh*thole to patronize. because so many people love hanging out in Mission Valley... not. seriously, name one business worth visiting in the whole of Mission Valley. it's a trick question, because there isn't one.
With all due respect to Mr. London, who clearly qualifies as an “expert” on development, I have a few concerns:
1. About that river, have you checked it in August or September? If that’s a river, my hot tub is Lake Morena.
2. Also about the river, what about December, as Adrian Florida’s piece from 5 years ago shows. Are we talking about a major re-engineering of this stream, and where does THAT money come from?
3. If the Qualcomm site is the largest “undeveloped” site in the city, did they nuke Fiesta Island while I was out of town?
4. On the 230,000 new units by 2030, that’s over 15,000 a year for 15 years. How have we done for the last 15 years.
@Bill Bradshaw " If that’s a river, my hot tub is Lake Morena."
i do fear if the Chargers move to LA, that development will happen faster than anyone can shake a stick at it.
your points are all valid.
If you're nodding yes to what's written here, I have ocean front property for sale in El Cajon that's perfect for you.
@Arizona Bread It'll probably ocean front property because of the sea rising in another 20 to 30 years!
Perhaps Mr. London should put his money where his mouth is, buy a ground floor unit down in the valley, and put his loved ones there to live.
"SANDAG tells us our region is going to need more than 230,000 housing units to accommodate population growth expected for 2030." Actually, its the 2050 SANDAG Forecast.
More Development = More tax $ for City and Much Bigger Donations for elected Leaders that push DEN$ITY.
This is just "DENSITY" promotion to enable ever more development, which will reduce the quality of life for all "current" residents.
Build parks and open spaces, then we will talk shout more housing.
Solutions offered for traffic impact: None
Solutions offered for increased water utilization: None
After attending years of meetings, as a community planner, the amount of credible traffic solutions offered by developers, Mr. Sherman, etal: None
The "got nothing for you" reminds me of the iconic scene in the movie, "This Is Spinal Tap." Where, the moderator/host (played by Rob Reiner) asks why the musician's amplifier goes to eleven (instead of ten)? Multiple times, the musician has no credible, logical answer. So he blows by the question by answering, "because it goes to eleven."
Same thing here Mr. London. "Ordinary tension" is evasive, without solution(s), and is a just another way of representing that this is the latest Mission Valley development proposal that goes to eleven.
This is not "thinking big." This is simply another example, of "talking big."
@Dale Peterson Mr. Peterson, I love that scene in Spinal Tap. I have a bit of a different take on it that still makes your point. Christoper Guest's character explains that they have an advantage because their amplifiers go one more, to 11. Reiner asks the simple question, why didn't you just make 10 louder. Guest looks confused as you described and then simply says "but this one goes to 11." It struck me that he didn't understand why Reiner didn't get it because it was so obvious to him so the only logical answer was to simply repeat it to see if stupid Reiner would finally get it. It's like the old saying that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it. There's a developer and a politician tactic for you.
According to VOSD reports, the group that met with the Qualcomm execs. were blistered with objections regarding strategic traffic planning and the disinterest in remedial solutions. Mr. London's opinion piece was a "double down" on business as usual. Apparently, London considers the concerns of the major corp. employer (in SD) to be on the same level as so called "neighborhood gadflies." Clearly, by writing what he did for the VOSD, he took nothing from that Qualcomm meeting. And, Scott Sherman equated the content of the meeting to someone having a "bad hair day." Yes, I know that Sherman didn't say that exactly; but, it was very close to that characterization.
Suggestion to both of these gentlemen:
Please listen to your constituents without the prejudicial condescending "we know what's best for all concerned agenda."
"We have to build homes, find better and alternative ways for those folks to get around..."
OK, you've got the first one locked down. Tell us about the second part, there.
What does "recovering the riverfront" mean. Are we talking about the entire riverfront, e.g. making it continuous, walkable, and safe? Or are we walking about developing one specific area into something like the San Antonion RiverWalk.
If I could have faith that developers and the City were competent enough to take care of congestion and traffic, I would be on-board. I believe density (that does not come with HOA fees equal to a house payment) is the solution to our housing costs. This city has a poor record on that, think Huffman "6 packs" in North Park, think school shortages in Mira Mesa. Just think. Sadly, we are a pretty incompetent lot in this town.
You have got to love the hubris of promoting the benefits of flat riverfront land. Having responded to innumerable flood rescues in Mission Valley I have always been amazed that the City of San Diego permitted development close to the river. As for this particular spot:
Droughts make people forget, but it won't last forever.
"It is large, flat and ready, so it’s an easily developable site."
Which begs the question. "how did it get that way?"
Seems to me failure to answer this question leads to flooding.
Mr. Giffin: If you or others would like to see some historical information about flooding in this area, check the attached, particularly page 37: